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Kages:
(Req: 1.5e+10 Stats; S-Rank Nin; 1e+13 HP)

Leaf (Hokage)
Cloud (Raikage)
Rock (Tsuchikage)
Sand (Kazekage)
Mist (Mizukage)
Rain (Amekage)
Sound (Otokage)
Blood (Ketsukage)



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(Req: 2e+10 Stats; S-Rank Nin; 3e+13 HP)

Akatsuki (Akatsuki Leader)
7SM (7SM Leader)
Root (Root Leader)
Sound Org. (SO Leader)
Police Force (PF Leader)
Taka (Taka Leader)
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Complaint: Secrecy

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Complaint: Secrecy

Post  HylianPanda on Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:55 am

Ok so let me start by saying I love this game. A classic style naruto game is always fun to come back to but...

The secrecy in this game needs to die in a fire. Why keep all these jutsu secret from everyone? What does this gain? Keeping the requirements for a jutsu only serves push new players away from your game or the clan you keep secret. The prime example would be NinTai's Ippon V2. If a jutsu is so powerful that you can't tell people how to get it that's a balance issue NOT a reason to keep new players from obtaining the jutsu. By limiting the jutsu only to the few players that know the requirements you basically limit tournament winners or powerful players to those who already know the requirement. I understand having powerful jutsus being difficult to obtain or only a chance to get but keeping it secret like this is hurting the player base. I would suggest if the jutsu is strong enough that you want to limit make it a mission style thing with only a limited number of tries and if you don't complete the mission then you dont get the jutsu. This eliminates the need for a secret. Everyone has their chance to get the jutsu and if they fail then too bad. I understand the downside of this. This would lead to people remaking if they lose or fail. Make the requirements high enough that remaking would be a pain but let the requirements be known.


TLDR: Secret reqs drive noobs away please fix that.
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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  GladiusStorm on Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:40 am

HylianPanda wrote:Ok so let me start by saying I love this game. A classic style naruto game is always fun to come back to but...

The secrecy in this game needs to die in a fire. Why keep all these jutsu secret from everyone? What does this gain? Keeping the requirements for a jutsu only serves push new players away from your game or the clan you keep secret. The prime example would be NinTai's Ippon V2. If a jutsu is so powerful that you can't tell people how to get it that's a balance issue NOT a reason to keep new players from obtaining the jutsu. By limiting the jutsu only to the few players that know the requirements you basically limit tournament winners or powerful players to those who already know the requirement. I understand having powerful jutsus being difficult to obtain or only a chance to get but keeping it secret like this is hurting the player base. I would suggest if the jutsu is strong enough that you want to limit make it a mission style thing with only a limited number of tries and if you don't complete the mission then you dont get the jutsu. This eliminates the need for a secret. Everyone has their chance to get the jutsu and if they fail then too bad. I understand the downside of this. This would lead to people remaking if they lose or fail. Make the requirements high enough that remaking would be a pain but let the requirements be known.


TLDR: Secret reqs drive noobs away please fix that.

No, because we don't want 99% of the game have Nintai/Senju because of that power they have. If we removed the reqs what's the point of playing this game?

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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  Tenori Taiga on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:12 pm

HylianPanda wrote:Ok so let me start by saying I love this game. A classic style naruto game is always fun to come back to but...

The secrecy in this game needs to die in a fire. Why keep all these jutsu secret from everyone? What does this gain? Keeping the requirements for a jutsu only serves push new players away from your game or the clan you keep secret. The prime example would be NinTai's Ippon V2. If a jutsu is so powerful that you can't tell people how to get it that's a balance issue NOT a reason to keep new players from obtaining the jutsu. By limiting the jutsu only to the few players that know the requirements you basically limit tournament winners or powerful players to those who already know the requirement. I understand having powerful jutsus being difficult to obtain or only a chance to get but keeping it secret like this is hurting the player base. I would suggest if the jutsu is strong enough that you want to limit make it a mission style thing with only a limited number of tries and if you don't complete the mission then you dont get the jutsu. This eliminates the need for a secret. Everyone has their chance to get the jutsu and if they fail then too bad. I understand the downside of this. This would lead to people remaking if they lose or fail. Make the requirements high enough that remaking would be a pain but let the requirements be known.


TLDR: Secret reqs drive noobs away please fix that.
You moan about secrecy like it's the on half of the clans, while in reality it only applies to V2/Ippon and Mokuton Sage Mode. Any reasoning is instantly lost.

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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  HylianPanda on Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:11 pm

The point isn't that it affects every clan the point is that you instantly make it so new players aren't on level playing ground by making these things secret. And really it's hard to tell what's secret and what isn't anymore. I've had to ask people if I'm missing something on a lot of clans because who knows what is secret. Maybe there is a secret uchiha thing or maybe you need 5 million rasengan uses to unlock a useful rasengan for the naruto clan. How are players supposed to know if your hiding something from them.


ALSO: If nintai and senju are so powerful that you have to make their jutsus secret they need to be nurfed.
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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  Tenori Taiga on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:05 am

HylianPanda wrote:The point isn't that it affects every clan the point is that you instantly make it so new players aren't on level playing ground by making these things secret. And really it's hard to tell what's secret and what isn't anymore. I've had to ask people if I'm missing something on a lot of clans because who knows what is secret. Maybe there is a secret uchiha thing or maybe you need 5 million rasengan uses to unlock a useful rasengan for the naruto clan. How are players supposed to know if your hiding something from them.


ALSO: If nintai and senju are so powerful that you have to make their jutsus secret they need to be nurfed.
If every clan boosts the same people will still whore on the clans with the best techs, it makes no difference whatsoever. Also, the ''hidden'' reqs get changed every wipe, so nobody benefits from it.



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Veterans are supposed to be on higher player ground than newbies, it's why they're veterans. Experience matters.

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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  HylianPanda on Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:28 pm

Monokuma wrote:


ALSO


Veterans are supposed to be on higher player ground than newbies, it's why they're veterans. Experience matters.
Veterans shouldn't need an advantage they should be able to take the stuff that everyone has and use it better than other people. Not need some crutch to be better.
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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  Tenori Taiga on Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:23 pm

HylianPanda wrote:
Monokuma wrote:


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Veterans are supposed to be on higher player ground than newbies, it's why they're veterans. Experience matters.
Veterans shouldn't need an advantage they should be able to take the stuff that everyone has and use it better than other people. Not need some crutch to be better.

What crutch? Veterans gained their knowledge through experience, not as a hand-me-down.

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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  HylianPanda on Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:01 pm

so you're gonna tell me that having a jutsu that makes them instantly stronger than everyone else is not a crutch?
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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  Tenori Taiga on Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:53 pm

HylianPanda wrote:so you're gonna tell me that having a jutsu that makes them instantly stronger than everyone else is not a crutch?
Out of all the ''veterans'' , 3 maybe 4 people pick senju or nintai, your argument is completely and totally invalid. And as I've said before, the reqs are changed each wipe.

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Re: Complaint: Secrecy

Post  HylianPanda on Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:03 pm

Then why make it a secret at all? Just so the older players can feel superior to newer players because they know it? Isn't the point of the game to have fun? If we keep all this stuff secret all it is doing is keeping new players from using certain clans to their maximum potential. Keeping it a secret doesn't help the game and it doesn't reward anyone it just makes new players have to spend hours trying different combinations of variables trying to get the reqs for something they have no information as how to do.
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